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We don't want a charity shop or coffee shop to replace HMV in Gloucester said customers

By The Citizen  |  Posted: February 23, 2013

CLOSING DOWN: HMV in King's Walk.

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SHOPPERS said the HMV site in Gloucester should be replaced with a clothes or music store when it closes.

Michelle Palmer, an 18-year-old shop assistant, said the city was struggling.

"There's no good shops left," she said.

"I would like to see another clothes shop there that's not too expensive."

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Jake Gibbs, 18, from Cinderford said he was sad it was shutting.

"It's one of the best shops in Gloucester.

"I get my music there. Gloucester needs more music shops or more shops for younger people where we can sit down and have some food."

Natalie Trigg, a Tesco manager, from Mitcheldean, said: "Definitely no more pound shops or cheap shops that set up and go again straight away and don't get people into town."

Quedgeley resident, James Hopkins, 30, who is deputy manager at Cheltenham's Lidl, said:"I'm not particularly surprised its going but I would like to see it stay or another music and DVD shop open."

Jamie Dewick,20, from Cheltenham

who works in Starbucks in Gloucester said: "I would like to see something a bit different in there.

"A clothing shop but something individual like a start-up business."

Tobias Newman, 24, from Gloucester, said: "I'm a little bit sad as I like that shop and have been going there since I was a teenager."

"I don't want to see another charity shop.

He added: "I would prefer it to stay as a music shop or something that's going to bring people back to Gloucester."

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  • bg1980  |  March 22 2013, 4:23PM

    The only reason out of town shopping is getting popular is 1) Free Parking. The council could easily change this, if they make the city accessable for all and not always restrict people then more people are likely to come. 2) Lets look at the sort of shops in the Retail parks. Currys, PC World, Homebase, B&Q etc etc. Big draw shops. Maybe if the council made allowances for shops to open in town centers then it wouldnt be so deserted. I could not disagree more that city center shopping is dead. Look at Birmingham, London, Swindon, Bath, Bristol. All thriving town centers with a fine mixture of Chain and independants.

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  • billyboss  |  February 26 2013, 12:01PM

    Just thought I'd point out that there is still a decent music and dvd shop in Gloucester just down from HMV called That's Entertainment. I'm really confused as to how people still don't know that!!

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  • chrisz  |  February 25 2013, 4:27PM

    And I don't see any problem with bringing quotas in for the different types of shops. Other countries are doing this for a long time already as this is a very effective tool for councils to keep the high streets attractive with a good mix of different retail and service offerings and bars/cafes. Any retail manager and especially shopping centre manager will tell you that the number one key rule in attracting people is to have a varied mix of shops.

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  • chrisz  |  February 25 2013, 4:22PM

    The problem here is that even the big retailers will think twice before taking on a new shop. In the current economic time most chains are rationalising their cost, mostly under the pressure of investors, and are shedding off staff and unprofitable shops. Most of the big chains can only survive by having bigger and bigger units (out of town) to make the economics work. Obviously every city/council council are doing themselves and inner city traders any favour in levying high parking charges and restricting access to parts of the city centre. Independent traders will never be able to rent a unit in an out of town location as (i) the units are too big and (ii) far too excessive to rent. But it also has to be said that inner city rents are too high nowadays. In a city like Gloucester with 100.000 inhabitants a decent shop unit will cost you at least £25.000 plus business rates, electricity, insurance etc. This is far out of reach of any independent and something the council needs to look at. Problem for independent shops as well is that they are under much more pressure than the big chains to make their living every single day. While the chains finance themselves via credit lines and overdrafts this is not possible for most independents and whatever they make in a week/month needs to be enough to pay all the bills, buy stock and also have enough left to live. In real terms while most chains only turn into profit around the Black Friday (end November) an independent needs to be profitable from the 1st of January as otherwise any savings need to be ploughed into the shop and can quickly lead to it going bust. So it is up to people to change it and buy independent with real local people.

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  • geraint2010  |  February 25 2013, 12:07PM

    Oh yes - and let's have high street banks on the trade parks too. Since the branch at the old cattle market closed I think I've only visited my bank twice!

  • geraint2010  |  February 25 2013, 12:03PM

    I'm with Bonkim here - whether we like it or not, city centre shopping has had its day. Far better to bite the bullet and accept that people want more out-of-town shopping centres, with free and convenient parking. Let's encourage more independent traders to these trade parks – butchers, greengrocers and the like and make our out-of-town shopping the new high streets. Meanwhile stop the decay of the city centre by converting empty shops into housing and/or office accommodation and create more parking areas so we make the city centre an inviting and attractive place where people are eager to come to work, visit, and play.

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  • dellthewell  |  February 25 2013, 11:31AM

    nearest store is now worcester i think, strange how that one has stayed open i suppose it must turn a profit, gloucester now has nearly no where to buy cds, but we visited worcester and theres still HMV, a new RISE record shop, and second hand retailers of old vinyl what on earth has happened to gloucester?!

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  • Paul_45  |  February 24 2013, 1:16PM

    Do people want some sort of quota system on shop types? Perhaps, no more than five coffee shops allowed within a 400 yard radius, or six or seven; what would be top limit? Conversely, should there be a lower limit, all city centres MUST have at least one coffee shop, one budget shop, one mobile phone shop, one pub, one betting shop? Who would come up with the rules? Who would enforce them? I presume if you, like my wife, don't drink coffee then one coffee shop is one too many! Similarly, if you don't buy CD's, toys, mobile phone, drink alcohol, bet, etc. Each person is going to have their own particular view on what constitutes too many of something. BTW Glosstephen Digital album sales rose 14.8% to 30.5m, although sales of albums on CD declined 19.5% year-on-year to 69.4m in total. Combined volume sales of digital and physical albums fell overall by 11.2% to 100.5m in 2012. http://tinyurl.com/aopuwx2 So CD's are being sold (70% of UK sales), it's just that HMV wasn't making enough profit or didn't have enough cashflow to pay it's bills.

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  • jas37  |  February 24 2013, 10:40AM

    According to a recent report in the Echo there are around 70 vacant shop units in the centre of Cheltenham -far more than in Gloucester. Government Policy is the only way to change the situation. Out of Town retailers should have to pay much higher Business rates than they do currently and a parking space tax levied on them to enable rates in Town Centres to be reduced.This would result in a more level playing field. And how about raising vat to 40% on everything that companies such as Amazon sell on line. This would at least go some way to claw back some of the Corperation taxes, Business rates etc that they apparently manage to avoid paying. As things are it seems we all subsidise Amazon while they channel their profits abroad.

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  • thomas1996  |  February 23 2013, 9:27PM

    The only real demand for a new shop in this 10 year recession (we are only half way through they say) would be a 'We buy scrap gold' centre or a pawnbrokers. I just want to know once everyone has sold their scrap gold, who's going to buy the jewellery that the old gold is made into?!!

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