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Wind, ‘Abundant free clean green energy’……

By johndavies  |  Posted: July 26, 2013

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....In your dreams.

1 - The subsidy and payment system for wind energy is aboutto be changed…upwards !!


The new Energy Bill proposes to replace the ROC system withwhat amounts to a guaranteed price called a 'Strike Price'.

Upto 3x higher than the current wholesale price forelectricity, which is around £47 per MWh.

The proposal is for

£100 per MWh for on land wind,

£125 per MWh for solar

£155 per MWh for offshore wind.


The cost to the consumer will be about £4.3 billion in2015/16, Rising to £7.6 billion in 2020/21.

 see- https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-energy-infrastructure-investment-to-fuel-recovery


The prices have been set deliberately high to encourageinvestors to build more wind farms, this could lead to the doubling of theprice paid to windfarmers, ('renewables' milked us of £ billions last yr; seedetails on this site- http://www.variablepitch.co.uk/finance/).



2 - After years of telling us that little or no backup wasrequired for 'renewables', the latest government wind scam, is that of using dirtydiesel as backup, with all the environmental & pollution implications.

A new industry has now developed, where an entrepreneur buyslarge container based Gensets, puts them in a field, connect them to the grid &picks up a fat cheque, just for being available…. & another if theygenerate.

It is expected to cost us £1billiona year by 2015, adding five per cent to energy bills !!

There are advanced proposals to set up a system offering to pay up to 12 x the current wholesale pricefor electricity from standby generators owned by supermarkets, hospitals, datacenters, in fact anyone who has one.

This standby generation is required because of the intermittencyof wind  & solar. Read more here:-  http://tinyurl.com/k2vvasm


Over the last month the average production from wind hasbeen less than 6 % of its stated capacity.

As I write this, the UKs 5,000 wind turbines are producing amere 1 % of demand, (sewage & landfill gas is giving 2x as much).


see- http://www.ukpowergeneration.info/site/realtime& http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

So much for the 'abundant free clean green energy' we were promised !!


3 - Now is the perfect time to write to the Rt. Hon MichaelFallon MP, the Energy Minister, about wind energy prices.

Further details + diy letter format here- http://tinyurl.com/nxjzzs6


Wind turbines-

Do they cost us money -YES
Are the subsidies a scam – YES

Are they a good investment for thedeveloper – YES

Do they cut CO2 – NO

Do they give reliable energy - NO

Do they give energy security - NO

Are they fit for purpose - NO

Should webuild more – NO


They are the wrong technology forthe job, chosen by ill-informed politicians, not by engineers.


John Davies


PS; I'm not a NIMBY…

But, I am proud to be a NIABY(not in anyone's backyard).

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  • SG1970  |  July 26 2013, 3:56PM

    Agent006 - we have about 250+ years of coal left in this country alone, and it's not difficult to access in most cases. Some countries have invested in highly efficient coal and gas fired generation. But I don't think the environmentalist's would even entertain this in the UK. Gas & Coal are still more efficient than most of the green alternatives.

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  • Lecorche  |  July 26 2013, 3:39PM

    Here's another word,Jim. GEOTHERMAL !

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  • IsitJimKerr  |  July 26 2013, 2:34PM

    Rising population, rising 'must have' gizmos, means just one word......... NUCLEAR.

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  • agent006  |  July 26 2013, 1:21PM

    So John, what is the correct technology? Bearing in mind that the UK is no longer self-sufficient in either coal or gas, and has no short or long-term nuclear plan. Also, would you care to outline the subsidies paid to the coal and gas fired power stations? Also, would you care to outline the costs that "the taxpayer" incurs for the ongoing maintenance of the UK's nuclear power stations?