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Urinate in public and face the consequences, party goers told

By citizenmike  |  Posted: March 12, 2014

Urinating in public needs to be stamped out

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URINATING in public should be stamped out in Gloucester, night time economy leaders have warned.

Gloucester police officers have visited Swansea to see the tough action the city takes against people who go for a piddle in the streets.

In Swansea those caught taking a slash are handed £50 fines, rising to £75 if they don’t cough up the money within a few days.

Lorry loads of portable urinals are brought in every weekend to give party goers no excuse.

PC Mark Mansfield, who went on the visit, said: “They provide the toilet facilities in the city centre so they bring a lorry with urinals in. They put then in taxi ranks and bus stops.

“In Swansea they have one strip of bars like Gloucester and it is super clean. At 5am every morning they jet wash the whole street. In comparison it makes our street look really dirty with bags of litter and rubbish.

“Swansea had 20 or 30 big cast iron bins that they also bring in for the night time economy so that you can easily dispose of your big takeaway packaging.”

Night time economy leaders have agreed to look into the possibilities of emulating some of the measures Swansea have put in place.

They were also left inspired by Swansea’s one stop place for taxis, coaches, buses and private pick up points, which keeps other areas free of traffic and makes it easier to police.

But Swansea is a city with a party crowd of some 15,000 people every weekend – notably bigger than Gloucester.

The city will need to look for sponsorship if it is to make some of the schemes a reality.

John Taylor, from taxi firm Andy Cars, said: “We have got the Rugby World Cup coming to the city in 2015 and we want that to be a legacy for the city so this could be a spring board for that.”

Calls for action on urinating in a public place come after repeated peeing incidents in the stairwell of the King’s Walk car park and in doorways of businesses in Eastgate Street.

The removal of public toilets in the city also makes it harder for police to justify fining offenders – but it was announced last week that Gloucester City Council will spend £100,000 on new public loos in the city centre.

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  • Kay_Powell  |  March 15 2014, 2:38PM

    I'm still awaiting evidence that female urinals are usable by the majority of women. Thank you so much for all of the negatives, but they don't actually compensate for the lack of requested evidence. ;)

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  • RoadWombat  |  March 14 2014, 12:07AM

    Jas, Nothing has changed. Penalty Notices are issued at present for the offence and have been for many years (although the article does indeed seem to suggest that they are something new). You'll see the offence appear occasionally in The Citizen court lists. You are right that the provision of toilets gives the offenders no excuse whatsoever, but they're not necessary for the offence to be complete, as a great many offenders who have been dealt-with for it will testify! I'm afraid whatever ancient law you may be referring-to will have gone the way of having to practice archery on a Sunday, taxis having to carry a bale of hay, pregnant women urinating in policemen's helmets and the idea that you can shoot Welshmen on the fourth Tuesday in April (or whatever it's supposed to be!).

  • jas37  |  March 13 2014, 10:34PM

    Roadwombat, it would obviously ne immoral for fines to be implemented if there are a lack of Public Toilets. Isn't there still an Ancient Law that states that it is legal to urinate at the nearside of the Highway? As far as I'm aware this has never been repealed.

  • Kay_Powell  |  March 13 2014, 5:17PM

    Jas, in the Victorian era it was perfectly acceptable to urinate in the street; now it is not, and in some places is actually an offence. One of the problems, though, is that public toilets are few and far between. Timmy, I have now searched online for female urinals. It seems that we are expected to use ones that are similar to the male type. As far as I know, I have normal anatomy, but I would struggle to use a male urinal. I don't see how I would use a pop-up urinal in the street. When I visited France, I happily used one of those hole-in-the-floor toilets, but I wouldn't fancy attempting to use a female urinal unless I was carrying one of those she-pee devices, and who the heck carries one of those around with them?

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  • RoadWombat  |  March 13 2014, 1:00AM

    Sorry, Jas. there is no earthly reason why what the Citizen incorrectly terms 'fines' cannot be implemented. In fact, they are implemented at the moment by way of what are called 'Penalty Notices for Disorder'. They are basically the same as a road traffic Fixed Penalty Notice in that the offender is given the opportunity to pay a known, fixed penalty rather than attend court to be dealt with by the Magistrates and take his luck on what punishment he receives (which would probably be fine of a greater amount than the offered fixed penalty). The offence would be one under the Public Order Act and there is, of course, absolutely no requirement for toilets to be provided for the offence to be complete.

  • jas37  |  March 12 2014, 10:49PM

    These fines clearly cannot be implemented until Public toilets of some description are available in the vicinity. I have used pop up urinals myself in other Cities, they can go a long way to solving the problem. It's about time we caught up with the 21st Century. Some commenters on this site appear stuck in the Victorian era. (mentioning no names RoadWombat)

  • RoadWombat  |  March 12 2014, 5:44PM

    "RoadWombat, are you saying that facilities should only be provided for those who behave badly?" On the contrary, I don't think money should be spent on such facilities at all - most of us learned at an early age to think ahead (i.e. go before you leave the pub!). Unfortunately, as usual, we pander to the uneducated and ill-mannered dross that frequents Eastgate Street on Friday and Saturday nights and devolve to the lowest standard, when what they need is to be taught to behave like normal human beings.

  • Lecorche  |  March 12 2014, 4:26PM

    What's a body suppposed to do since the snakes on the council left us without a pot to hiss in?

  • Kay_Powell  |  March 12 2014, 4:06PM

    Timmy, I have never seen one. Perhaps they exist, but where are they? Please try to be less insulting.

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  • timmy0811  |  March 12 2014, 3:56PM

    Kay_Powell, You always try to be ahead of the comments on this site, But you have no common sense, idea or intelligence. How is a girlie supposed to use a urinal? - It's seem girlie urinals have been a around for time. Take your time and do proper research before your comments.