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Quango Unchained: The polls are wrong. Nick Clegg made Nigel Farage look silly at the first EU debate

By jrmaidment  |  Posted: March 27, 2014

Quango Unchained: The polls are wrong. Nick Clegg made Nigel Farage look silly at the first EU debate
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After an hour of Nigel Farage and Nick Clegg debating whether or not Britain should leave the European Union almost 60 per cent of people polled by YouGov said they felt the Ukip leader had got the best of the Deputy Prime Minister.

Were they watching the same debate as me?

Mr Farage started well.

He was his usual nice-chap-down-the-pub self.

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He was animated, funny, engaging and passionate - clearly relishing his chance to trade blows with one of the leaders of the established political class.

In short, he was up for it, like a non-league club in an FA Cup tie with one of the big boys.

In contrast Mr Clegg started slowly, appearing like a disinterested Arsenal away at Stoke.

The dynamic quickly changed.

On the safe ground of why the European Union is the worst thing in the world Mr Farage scored point after point, using his familiar and effective argument of money wasted and sovereignty lost.

But as the debate moved away from the banner issue and into the detail of what a departure from the EU might mean for the UK Mr Farage started to lose his way.

Mr Clegg’s approach remained the same from start to finish: Stay calm and bombard his opponent with his apparent kryptonite. Cold, hard facts.

The more numbers and cast iron examples Mr Clegg cited the more irate Mr Farage appeared to become.

For my money Mr Clegg made Mr Farage look a bit silly.

That was probably the intention.

But victory is relative and the likelihood that this bun fight actually changed the minds of any undecided voters is probably zero.

Mr Farage offered plenty for Eurosceptics to roar along to while Mr Clegg gave the “that’s why I’m in” crowd more than enough to agree with.

Everyone else probably wondered what all the shouting was about.

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26 comments

  • MrGarnet  |  March 31 2014, 11:34PM

    Kay I am quite frankly underwhelmed by your gracious answer. I was hoping for something more cerebral.Not to worry I get where you are coming from.

  • cityboy1981  |  March 31 2014, 11:29PM

    Nick clegg the turn coat, Nigel farage down with us real, working class people. Know who I'm voteing for UKIP###UKIP###UKIP###UKIP###UKIP###UKIP###UKIP###.

  • Kay_Powell  |  March 31 2014, 11:01PM

    OMG, that's so funny. I've never been called simpering before, and believe me I've been called plenty of things! I detest Clegg. I was simply surprised at their respective ages. It's probably the smoking that does it.

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  • MrGarnet  |  March 31 2014, 8:57PM

    This was my reply to Kay Powel simpering post re Clegg.As you cannot edit on here properly. When you live a life of privilege and expect entitlement and comfort it is no wonder some might thing Clegg looks young he has never fought for much has he just gone along with the "establishment" Nigel on the other hand is a fighter.We used to have a lot of those types in charge.Now we are saddled with pompous oafs like Clegg who would sell us down the river for a nice job in the EU. Remember that useless failure Kinnock? Done very nicely for achieving ...........................nothing!!!

  • MrGarnet  |  March 31 2014, 7:30PM

    "I have only just discovered that Nick Clegg is less than three years younger than Nigel Farage. Am I the only one who thought that Nick was about ten or fifteen years younger than Nigel?" When you live a life of privilege and expect entitlement and comfort it is no wonder some might thing Clegg looks young he has never fought for much has he just gone along with the "establishment" Nigel on the other hand is a fighter.We used to have a lot of those types in charge.Now we are saddled with pompous oafs like Clegg who would sell us down the river for a nice job in the EU. Remember that useless failure Kinnock? Done very nicely for achieving ........................... nothingll!!

  • Kay_Powell  |  March 31 2014, 6:15PM

    I didn't watch that debate, but I have an observation relating to the two of them as they have come across in general over the last few years - I have only just discovered that Nick Clegg is less than three years younger than Nigel Farage. Am I the only one who thought that Nick was about ten or fifteen years younger than Nigel?

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  • MrGarnet  |  March 29 2014, 3:28PM

    I watched the debate and Nick Clegg came over as a pompous smarmy politician full of confidence in his own entitlement. The very ilk we should be kicking out. I would also say the same of a wet behind the ears "journalist" that comes out with this type of out of touch talking down to article. It will be good if I run out of loo paper, but that is about it.

  • Spud0  |  March 29 2014, 2:26PM

    @uk_socrates, You are right the UN Security Council can't kick out members but would an increasingly isolated UK under Nigel Farage have a seat in a new forum that will result from a revision that may arise from the election of a far right political party in the UK , I doubt it. Now the G7 is about Global cooperation and development. The UK outside the EU and ECHR would have very much less influence in Europe and the World so putting it's membership of the G7 into doubt if not pointless. Nigel Farage's Little Britain vision could lead to a Little England as most Scots and Welsh want to stay in the EU. I'm sure Alex Salmond will be rubbing his hands in glee at the thought of UKIP doing well in the Euro elections as it will further his Scotish argument for Scottish independence. The Tory press would like you to think of Nigel Farage as silly but it's much worse than that I think he's quite dangerous.

  • wezza4  |  March 29 2014, 8:17AM

    Jack - you are obviously a very intelligent lad who doubtless came away from Higher Education with a plethora of qualifications in the political spectrum. Meanwhile, back in the real world most people just want to hear a straight answer rather than political jargon and for me Nigel Farage won hands down. The first question was "should we have a referendum?" Mr Farage said yes, adding it should come before the next election and Mr Clegg gave a long rambling answer which neither confirmed or denied that he was in favour of one - the same response we've had from various politicians down the years. Forgetting about your politics degree for a moment Jack, which reply do you think most people went for?

  • Mike_Smith_Gl  |  March 28 2014, 6:07PM

    I had always thought Jack's comments were reasonably balanced but now I tend to agree with Dave_t10. Maybe that's why the Citizen has failed to publish the Press Release about the selection of UKIP's Prospective Parliamentary Candidate which it has had for a week. For those interested, he is Luke Hindhaugh, 27, who lives in Coney Hill and works for the Gloucestershire Fire & Rescue Service. I notice Labour's import has been extensively covered recently. For more details, see our Facebook Page, UKIP Gloucester Branch.

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