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MPs vote in support of smoking ban in cars with children

By Impeyecho  |  Posted: February 11, 2014

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VOTE: Smoking in car ban wanted

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Smoking in cars where children are passengers should be banned, according to MPs.

Calls to back the Labour-supported amendment to the Children and Families Bill have been supported by the majority in a parliamentary vote.

The vote means that Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt has the power to bring in a ban in England.

Meanwhile, Welsh Government ministers will have to decide whether the same should apply in Wales.

The amendment - passed by 376 votes to 107 - does not compel ministers to make it a criminal offence for drivers to fail to prevent smoking in their privately owned vehicles when children are present.

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  • CaptCX  |  February 11 2014, 3:38PM

    Supernova1 - But that's just it, they aren't really thinking about the children in any real sense. As Lecorche says, if someone is so hell-bent on smoking that they smoke in the car with their kids, what is going to happen at home? Most smokers with children wouldn't smoke anywhere near them anyway - the ones who subject their kids to 2nd hand smoke are those who won't give a damn about breaking the law and who, when caught, will pay the fine out of money earmarked to be spent on their children (it sure as hell won't come out of their beer & fag money will it?).

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  • supernova1  |  February 11 2014, 3:22PM

    Well, I don't think ALL MP's are looking for the cheap vote, come election time, although Liebour are making a good fist of populist measures. And apologies too for thinking of the children in this debate, not your own selfish interests....keep topping up the NHS coffers and the undertakers coffins....lol!

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  • Togster  |  February 11 2014, 3:18PM

    Just a silly no sense modern day nanny state law. I am a non-smoker, i dont hold anything against anyone that smoke, its a personal choice. So in all fairness who are the Goverment to tell me (us) what i can or cannot do in my own personal space. Big brother nanny state gone mad, why not stick a microchip in my head, so you can control the way i speak, behave, look.......have we really dumbed down society that much that we need the goverment to wipe our behinds for us. Sad state of affairs if you ask me. Common sense seems to be rationed these days.

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  • Lecorche  |  February 11 2014, 2:42PM

    Looks to me like it's half a law pretending that the politicos care. What happens when the smoker and kids arrive home? Is it then alright for the parent to smoke indoors?

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  • CaptCX  |  February 11 2014, 2:32PM

    Supernova1 - It had cross-party support because this is one of those bills that can make MPs look as if they give a damn - they can make lots of emotive speeches, beseeching people to "think of the children" and then go about fiddling their expenses whilst the under-resourced police have yet another law to try to enforce. Consider this for a moment: A single man (or woman) is driving in their car late at night. It is raining and freezing cold outside. They are smoking (or have smoked recently). Suddenly, a woman steps out into the road and stops them - her car has broken down and she is in desparate need of a lift to get her children to safety. "Sorry!" says the driver, "But your children aren't allowed in my car, otherwise I would be breaking the law - I'm afraid you'll have to take your chances here!".

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  • RoadWombat  |  February 11 2014, 2:28PM

    A pointless waste of time and, as everyone else has said, pretty much unenforceable because the evidence will have gone up in smoke before you've even finished your phone call to the police control room. Unfortunately the trend nowadays seems to be to make a practically unenforceable law out of what used to be given out as public information and advice.

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  • supernova1  |  February 11 2014, 12:35PM

    North Glos EPC........'No decent person would smoke in a car carrying children'...so why did it have cross party support in both the Commons and the Lords? Fact is, as I have said, there are plenty of people who smoke in cars with children aboard, I've seen in many, many times. But as I also say, who is going to enforce it? Plod can't stop the squillions of people using mobiles at the wheel, so it's unenforceable, but at least it might make a few idiots think about their children, instead of themselves.

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  • zinboya  |  February 11 2014, 11:45AM

    Another Law that is about as in-force able has a pig in S**t.

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  • North Glos EPC  |  February 11 2014, 11:38AM

    GlosAnarchy, A valid point, I would agree not everyone is a "decent person" although most if not all I know are. However the irresponsible "none decent persons" will continue to smoke in cars with children on board and continue to use mobiles because the law is essentially unenforceable. Yes a few will be prosecuted and fined but most "non-decent"will ignore the law. So why give the Police more to do when they have enough on their plate already. Surely a program of public education would achieve more than an unenforceable law, which I still think is just a nanny state diversion from real national issues anyway.

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