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Eric Pickles 'talking rubbish' over bin bible guidance

By The Citizen  |  Posted: January 08, 2014

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Mr Pickles: You are talking rubbish.

That’s the message from councils across Gloucestershire after the Government’s Communities Secretary, Eric Pickles, published his “bin bible” in support of weekly refuse collections.

Mr Pickles issued his ‘rubbish’ guidance last week to encourage collection authorities to commit to picking up refuse on a weekly basis.

The document, sent to every council in England, seeks to debunk the “bin myths” which support fortnightly collections.

The “busted myths” include the idea that the only way to improve recycling is to go fortnightly, and that biweekly collections are the only way to save taxpayers cash.

With many authorities operating fortnightly collections in Gloucestershire, it is perhaps unsurprising that Mr Pickles’ “bin bible” has received little support.

Tewkesbury and Cheltenham borough councils both collect food waste every week, while recycling and residual waste – anything which can’t be recycled – collections happen on alternate weeks.

Meanwhile, Gloucester City Council collects food waste and recycling every week, but residual waste fortnightly.

Cheltenham Borough Council believes weekly residual waste collection would be a “poor use of taxpayers’ money”.

Councillor Roger Whyborn (LD, Up Hatherley), cabinet member for sustainability, said: “This is something that has been a personal crusade for Eric Pickles over the years, but it isn’t something most local authorities agree with.

“In the main, the rationale behind fortnightly collections is pretty sound.”

Councillor Jim Mason (C, Winchcombe), Tewkesbury Borough Council’s lead member for clean and green environment, said satisfaction with the current collection system is “extremely high”.

He said: “For us, the benefits of our current collection scheme are clear.”

Councillor Sajid Patel (C, Barton and Tredworth), cabinet member for environment at Gloucester City Council, said: “The present residual and recycling collection service in the city is running very well. However, the council, in partnership with contractor Amey, is continually looking at new ways to encourage reuse and recycling and to improve the service for residents in an effort to reduce the amount of waste going to landfill.”

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  • Bonkim2003  |  February 16 2014, 7:01PM

    Glos councillors have signed up to expensive and idiotic multi-bin collection contracts and don't want to show they are idiots. Creating new waste streams, spending three times landfill costs and calling it green recycling is the most idiotic thing to say. Mr Pickles has thought through and knows what he is talking about. He has been a councillor and council leader in his time to know how thick councillors can be on many issues. Check what the educational levels of some of your councillors are next time they canvas for your vote.

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  • Snappy_Happer  |  January 11 2014, 6:49PM

    That's the elephant in the road, Rackmani, but again, if anyone could justify that extra rubbish, the council would (supposedly) give them another bin. They apparently aren't trying to justify it, and the council aren't trying to find out what is in these bags to create more waste...

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  • Rackmani  |  January 09 2014, 8:38PM

    I think the issue is round here with the change to fortnightly collection there are invariably bags of rubbish piling in the streets which there didn't used to be and that can't be good surely?

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  • Snappy_Happer  |  January 09 2014, 12:02PM

    Did you take that comment 'personally', IsitJimKerr? Is that why you were so irate? Sorry, if so, but I stand by my opinion that stupidity and/or plain not caring are the most obvious explanations for fortnightly collections not being enough for *most* people who have a problem with them. I took it as read that people would realise I meant personal abuse *between* commenters, because, judging by comments to other articles, it's clearly OK to be snippy about the wider populace. If you want to slate me, could you keep it to the arrows? I've never been so abrasive about you or RoadWombat. I've actually respected your views in the past...

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  • IsitJimKerr  |  January 09 2014, 11:08AM

    we don't do personal abuse here.........' No? '...............there are clearly plenty of people in the city still who are either idiots, irresponsible, or both.....' Brilliant, you really couldn't make it up!

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  • Snappy_Happer  |  January 09 2014, 9:49AM

    Of course you can dare, Rackmani, we don't do personal abuse here...

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  • Rackmani  |  January 08 2014, 9:29PM

    Dare I say it I'd be very happy with a weekly collection..................

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  • Snappy_Happer  |  January 08 2014, 2:29PM

    I've got no delusions about the council being interested in saving the planet, Roadwombat, or I'd expect them to work a lot harder on encouraging sensible recycling than they're doing. I just believe that when they replaced the old pot-shaped bins with wheelies, they doubled the capacity at least, and the only reason fortnightly is unmanagable for some is that some people have got lazy, or simply believe they have a divine right to have any amount of **** disposed of by somebody else. Sounds like a Conservative mantra worthy of Pickles. Strange, I would have thought the people who *really* believe that 'we're all in this together' would've chimed in by now, to support social responsibility.

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  • IsitJimKerr  |  January 08 2014, 2:16PM

    RoadWombat....spot on, I think we are 'hewn from the same rock', or some other meaningless office jargon! It's a pity we couldn't have a vote on this site, but looking at the arrows, I think you and I are winning the debate. Like I said, I'm all for recycling, that's why I do it, but EXACTLY as you said, certain people are prepared to have that ring through their nose, well and truly tugged in whatever direction the passing 'fad' happens to be going. In some ways it's quite hilarious, but on the other hand, some people actually believe all that c**p.

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  • Snappy_Happer  |  January 08 2014, 1:21PM

    BTW,why is that even though we type our comments in paragraphs for ease of reading (my last two sentences were originally separate), when I come back to this page, everything has been crushed into a slab of text? Glitch, mister?

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