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Anger over pay and display car park at The Turmot Hoer pub in Abbeymead

By The Citizen  |  Posted: March 29, 2014

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PAY and display car parking at an Abbeymead is driving away trade from local businesses and forcing people to park dangerously, according to residents and businesses.

Bosses at The Turmut Hoer pub say they installed the pay and display system because of a number of people not visiting the pub but still filling up their car park, stopping customers from visiting.

But local businesses say that visitors are not noticing the difference between the privately owned pub car park and the spaces outside their premises, and this is affecting trade.

The manager of Level One Hairdressers, which is opposite The Turmut Hoer, said: “None of our customers seem to understand the new parking system, and because of that we’ve had a really quiet week.

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“People are just driving in then driving straight out again. It needs to be made clear that you don’t need to pay to park in the spaces in front of our businesses.”Parents picking up their children from the nearby Abbeymead School add to the number of cars in the area during peak times. The pub says it will continue to let parents use the car park as a pick up and drop off point for short periods.

Jim Beeley, Councillor for Hucclecote, said: “Car parking is a massive issue for people in this area, so I regret that the pub has done this.

“I can understand why The Turmut Hoer has done this, so the council is going to await the impact of the changes.”

The pub says the manager spoke to local businesses in advance to let them know of the changes and put up notices in the car park.

A spokesman for Turmut Hoer said: “The pay and display charges were introduced last week due to the number of people not visiting the pub using the car park.

“Unfortunately our customers were having difficulty parking in the car park because it was full, even though the pub wasn’t.”

The charge is £1.00 for three hours, which is refunded to customers who use the pub.

Richard Angell, Owner of nearby business Angell Pets, said: “It’s stopping customers getting to the shop and it’s affecting our trade. We’ve also had difficulties with our delivery companies having access to the shop.”

Robin Raab-Watts, local resident, said: “By making part of the car park to The Turmot Hoer a pay and display which was free up until now will force the primary school parents and secondary education children drop offs for the various school buses to block Mead Road.

“What bird brain thought this one up?”

Brad Lewis, Manager of nearby Abbeymead Fish Bar, said: “It needs to be made clear that the spaces outside our businesses are different to those in the car park.

“I can understand why the pub has done this if loads of people were taking up their spaces without going in.”

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9 comments

  • Peter_Parker  |  March 31 2014, 9:26AM

    GlosAnarchy - that is very true. But if you can find someone that has ever happened to you can win a prize. Most private parking companies just send you letters asking for payment, pretending they 'might' take court action. But hardly any ever do. There is always the slight risk of course, but even if it ever got to that stage if you can prove that the company haven't complied with the law or have not displayed information adequately then they're sunk anyway. All I am doing is advising people not to get bullied by these companies - the same applies at the hospital car parks as well.

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  • Kay_Powell  |  March 30 2014, 11:23PM

    So, who is giving GlosAnarchy the negatives for explaining what could happen when you don't pay for parking on private land? Just because most car park owners won't want the bother of taking motorists to court for unlawful parking, that doesn't mean that no-one ever does.

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  • GlosAnarchy  |  March 30 2014, 7:43PM

    Peter_Parker, if they take you to court and get an order for payment and you don't pay then they can get high court bailiffs to pay you or your business a visit and they can take away your car to pay the fine and bailiff costs at a standard charge plus per hour costs!

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  • Peter_Parker  |  March 30 2014, 5:52PM

    Halibut is partly right. 90% of private parking tickets are never enforced. The rules have changed slightly since 2012 but it still comes down to the land owner/private company having to pay for the expense of taking you to court to get the money. And they have to jump through hoops and adhere to a lot of red-tape in order for it even to get that far. It is a civil matter, not a criminal one so they cannot threaten to send bailiffs etc.

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  • honslknjklyt  |  March 30 2014, 1:26PM

    Oh look Halibut the "Scub free parking" is on here again. YES boy private parking tickets are enforceable, notice you used to ignore ignore ignore scam scam scam, you don't say that anymore do you? You are getting your comeuppance and rightfully so.

  • GlosAnarchy  |  March 29 2014, 7:08PM

    Nice to see the I don't give a dam about the fact that it's privet land brigade getting on here, the simple fact is that it's not their land and they have NO legal right to park there! It sickens me the way people continually say that it's unenforceable even though the land owners are morally in the right and the abusers of the carpark are in the wrong! I know I'll get lots of red thumbs from the cookie monster and the "I can abuse parking wherever I want" brigade!

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  • jackson99  |  March 29 2014, 7:08PM

    The car park get full of parents waiting to pick up their kids from school. Dont blame the pub at all, if you using the pub you get the parking fee refunded.

  • halibut2209  |  March 29 2014, 3:21PM

    Remember that if you get a "parking charge notice" from LPS, they are UNENFORCABLE. Simply visit moneysavingexpert for help in getting it cancelled http://tinyurl.com/5vqgbxo

  • Raccoon  |  March 29 2014, 2:31PM

    It's a private car park. Why shouldn't others pay to use it? Anyway, how does it affect the ability of delivery vehicles to access Angell Pets?

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